NEWARK, NJ – Local anti-vaccine mother of four, Sharyl Taylor, has lost her fourth child in as many years to a vaccine preventable illness. This time it was whooping cough. Over the past three years, the Taylors have had to say goodbye to Matthew, 3, Penny, 6, and Henry, 9. Two of the children died from complications of Rotavirus, while the third passed away due to Tetanus.

None of this has swayed Sharyl Taylor from her anti-vaccine stance.

“It is always tragic when a child dies, of course, but my babies are up in heaven now having lived their whole life naturally and autism-free,” said Taylor. “The fact that all four of my children went through life free from toxins, GMOs, gluten, and most importantly autism, is solace enough for me.”

Child Protective Services has been called into investigate the situation, creating outrage among the anti-vaccine community.

“This is another case of the government and Big Pharma trying to control how we raise our children, our property” said Tanner’s dad, Tim. “Yes her children all died of diseases that there are vaccines for, but you know what? None of her children were vaccine injured which close to 90% of kids who get vaccines are.”

Amazingly, despite not having had any vaccinations, Mrs. Taylor submitted all four deaths to VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) in hopes of getting some monetary compensation.

“Just because they didn’t have vaccines, doesn’t mean I can’t blame their deaths on vaccines,” explained Taylor.

 

SP Team
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  • Mike Valgy

    How many kids died from vaccine reactions? Only 3.1 billion $$$$$ paid to vaccine injuries/deaths too. That is no worry.

    • Chris

      More Fun and Educational Math Time for the Functionally Innumerate! It is quiz time!

      Go look at the table of this page of NVICP statistics. Now go to the bottom row and write down the total number of vaccines given (2,532,428,541). Then run your finger down and find out how many claims were compensated (2054).

      Now find the calculator on your computer, and take the first number and then divide by the second number. What is that number and what does it mean?

      And do you seriously think your statements would be taken seriously at a satirical website?

      • valgy77
        • MisterLiteral

          I’m not sure where you get the 1 in 10 statistic… The link does not align with your conspiracy.

          Also, you seem to have a drastic misunderstanding of how the NVICP is set up, and how payouts are given so generously; even without scientific evidence that a reaction was caused by a vaccine.

          Did you actually read anything in that link you provided?

        • Chris

          ZZZT… Wrong, wrong, wrongety wrong! When you say something so incredibly daft on a satirical website, expect to be mocked.

          You were supposed to come up with a number, not the link that I used to get the statistics pdf that I actually linked to.

          You seen to not only be functionally innumerate, but also illiterate with no clue that the words written in blue letters are a link to the NVICP statistics, even though those say they are the NVICP statistics! If you hover your mouse over the blue works, the little arrow turns into a hand, if you click your mouse button it will show that page. By the way no one reports that they have a sore arm after they get a vaccine, only wimpy crybabies do that, especially after they fail a third grade math quiz.

          Now try again, actually look at the table of the link I gave. Also, by “table” I mean a box of rows and columns with numbers, not the piece of furniture that you sit at to eat lunch. Perhaps you should ask someone to show you how to read tabulated data. Then have them show you how to find a calculator.

          So what is 2,532,428,541 total vaccines divided by 2054 total compensated claims? Give us the number, and what it means.

          • MisterLiteral

            Actually, I am just getting over a very sore arm after receiving the TDaP shot. I think it was because I tensed my arm muscle right as the nurse inoculated me. My flu shot on the other arm was not sore for more than a day.

            I have not, nor do I intend to file a claim with the NVICP.

            Nor have I decided to report it on VAERS.

          • Chris

            My shingles shot seemed to cause a sore arm. I also did not report it, because I was an Army brat and did get vaccinated for typhus, yellow fever and typhoid before we left to live overseas. Those hurt, I was in fourth grade and it did not phase me a bit.

          • FelixWankel

            Chris, after reading all of your worthless posts, it looks like all your vaccines did phase you…….they turned to into an ignorant paid pharma troll.

          • Chris

            You’re hilarious! Because I can do third grade math, I am a paid pharma troll on a website that satirizes alternative medicine, bad science and the anti-vax folks. That is just stellar logic. You just gotta love the Pharma Shill Gambit!

          • Gabbleduck

            I always wonder at the mind that thinks that every person who makes a comment in favour of vaccination is somehow in the pocket of “big Pharma”. I hope my cheques from them, NASA and the aviation industry (whom I help keep chemtrails under wraps) all start coming in soon.
            living in constant fear and surrounded by imaginary conspiracies must be draining – it never seems to do much good for the sanity.

          • Bzzzt! Paid pharmacy shill gambit. Credibility: gone.

          • Chris

            What credibility did he have before? Can he learn to use the division function on his computer’s calculator? Or learn to click on the words with a different color?

          • John Sims

            Obviously you didn’t read all his post

  • Mike Valgy

    What about kids who got sick with whooping cough and were vaccinated and they are the one who are spreading virus?

    • Chris

      And now it is Fun and Educational Math Time for the Functionally Innumerate!

      First lesson:

      Some community immunity arithmetic:

      Take 1000 people (ignoring the infants under 2 months who cannot be vaccinated, or babies under a year who can only be partially vaccinated), if 5% refuse vaccines then the numbers are:

      950 vaccinated persons (assuming full schedule)
      50 unvaccinated persons

      The pertussis vaccine is actually only 80% effective at worse, so the numbers are:

      760 protected persons
      190 vaccinated but vulnerable persons
      50 unvaccinated persons

      There is an outbreak and it gets spread to 20% of the population, then:

      760 protected persons without pertussis

      38 vaccinated persons get pertussis
      152 vaccinated person who may still get pertussis

      10 unvaccinated persons get pertussis
      40 unvaccinated persons who may still get pertussis.

      This is how more vaccinated persons get the disease than unvaccinated. Even if the infection rate was at 100%, there would still be more of the vaccinated getting the diseases because there are more of them!

      • kfunk937

        Innumerate. That’s possibly the point; There’s no reasoning with a position gained without reason.Thanks for you math, though. That’s a thing that’s without bias, if one has the wherewithal to see clear to it. Pity some don’t. Perhaps some in the shadows will pick it up, which is why you (and we) do this, wot we do.

        • Chris

          Exactly. I am listening to Star Talk, where Neil deGrasse Tyson says he is our personal astrophysicist. In a former life I was an aerospace engineer who did lots of applied math. I guess I can be a personal applied math geek.

          • kfunk937

            Honestly, you did’t get dumb when you became a parent.From my perspective, you become . . . more.</p?Please understand that this doesn't come from the aether. I've had the tiniest bit of what you've been through to get a gist. And I also adore NdGT. And, yes, you can be a personal applied math geek. I relate to that (albeit my math-fu is severely limited, from my perspective, at least).

          • Chris

            Thanks. Actually, having a disabled child is why I am no longer an aerospace engineer. He had neonatal seizures when he was two days old, and therefore in the 1980s he did not get the pertussis vaccine, just about the time our county had a pertussis outbreak (Thank you Barbara Loe Fisher and Lea Thompson!).

            I did the numbers and figured out that he could not be in a regular childcare with other children, but needed a nanny. After calculating transportation costs, time, taxes, etc… I would have ended up getting a net hourly wage less than the nanny. Later, I made sure he was only around vaccinated children.

            Anyway, I have spent much of my time in the past quarter century doing medical, therapy, educational, etc. appointments. I have learned a great deal about health insurance, disability laws, and on and on. This was not something I could even think of paying for… but we have chosen a fiduciary guardian company to take care of him when we die.

            And actually the tag line on my JREF forum identity, does kind of refer to all of the stuff I had to learn with just one kid! Neurology, speech development, special ed. over the years, etc. Twenty five years ago there was very very little on kids who could not speak, so this is how I ended up venturing online in the mid-1990s and UseNet newsgroups. That is why I am so familiar with John Scudamore and his conspiratorial whale of a website!

          • kfunk937

            Do, please, keep on doing what you do. There is no more effective way to put a real human face on reality and “the story” than from the perspective of lived experience. It is both affective and effective. I admire your voice and recognise that your kids have a kick-ass parent in their corner. No words are gonna be enough to talk my way around how I can’t quite express it, but let’s say I also have first-hand experience with giving up the planned life due to stuff that intervened (in my case, medicine rather than engineering).

          • Chris

            Thank you.

          • kfunk937

            Hah! and Heh! alloverdaplace

          • John Sims

            I have left the workforce to because of my autistic child’s schedule.

          • Chris

            Sounds familiar. My “fave” was picking him up from school in the afternoon and rushing him to the twice a week speech therapy.

            Word of a advice: if you have other children do not schedule an IEP meeting the same day as their parent/teacher conferences. I did that, and his was the last. I was so tired at the end of it I did not realize that they had added another speech therapy session to his week!

            Another word of advice: save all of the reports (scan them, turn them into pdf files). You may need to have another evaluation when your child is older, and it is lots easier to print them out than to get them copied. Presently we are trying to get him supported employment and housing, so those records were crucial in getting him certain services as an adult.

          • valgy77

            Whopping cough is spread by vaccinated people if you think that unvaccinated people are the reason for spreading it then that is not correct. I have been vaccinated by it and now I spread it to others, what I have found out after I got the shot. I am not very pleased with that at all. This whole dogma that we have to vaccinate everyone and everything is like fascism or communism mentality. But all it is about pharma profits. I am not for that.

          • Chris

            Again, you are failing at basic math. You even forgot that stupid contention did not work two months ago, so it is not going to work again. Go up and look at this simple math lesson. Unvaccinated people only have themselves to blame, especially since they get it worse.

      • Ted talk which uses a great example of a pertussis outbreak:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7Mhne4CzU

      • valgy77

        If people would be informed of other options than not just vaccines I am sure they would not be bullied into vaccines but the government and medical system is run over with big pharma which suppresses any viable alternatives and make sure that public is well brain washed that nothing else works.

        • Chris

          Except there is no reason to believe someone who cannot figure out how to read a table, and do a simple division problem. Have you figured out the ratio between vaccines given and the number of NVICP compensated claims yet?

          Newsflash: sixty year old unverified claims by Klenner are not valid information

          • Kevin Williams

            I believe the last numbers I saw were: less than one compensated NVICP claim for every 1 million vaccine doses administered since the inception of the program. If only everything we encountered in life were this safe!

      • Greg

        And now its time to point out a fundamental flaw in your ‘Fun and Educational Math Time for the Functional Innumerate’ lessons!

        Take 1000 people (ignoring the infants under 2 months who cannot be vaccinated, or babies under a year who can only be partially vaccinated), if 5% refuse vaccines then the numbers are:

        950 vaccinated persons (assuming full schedule)
        50 unvaccinated persons

        But you’re erring by assuming a 95% vaccination for the population that will include all ages. You said it — we’re talking ‘people’, not just kids.

        We know that most adults (87%) do not keep up with their pertussis booster. Even if they were vaccinated as kids ( and given that a significant amount of them wouldn’t have been) the vaccine wears off after 7 – 10 years.

        So, with our given population of 1000, let’s assume 23% (US population census) are kids under 18, with 95% vaccinated. (Actually I’m being extremely generous to you here when we remember that the vaccine wears off after 7-10 years, and mist kids are likely only protected up to 13 — tops)! We would then have 221 vaxxed 18-years and under, and 12 unvaxxed. As for remaining 77% of adults, with a 13% booster rate, we would have approx 100 vaxxed and 670 unvaxxed.

        All told within our population of a 1000 there is likely to be 321 vaxxed (mainly kids), and 682 unvaxxed (mainly adults)

        I will let you carry on with the calculations that will have more vaxxed getting pertussis, but as to your conclusion that…

        Even if the infection rate was at 100%, there would still be more of the vaccinated getting the diseases because there are more of them!

        ….I trust that I have adequately shown why thus is patently false!

        • Chris

          I was using the most optimistic numbers for a reason, even including just an 80% efficacy. It shows that even with maximized numbers of protected people, there are still more.

          By the way, even if the adult had their last pertussis vaccine as a kid, they are still considered vaccinated. I actually created that scenario before there was either a Dtap and Tdap vaccine.

          Todd W. took those numbers and increased the percentage of the unvaccinated to 15%, check it out:
          http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2010/11/vaccine-awareness-week-if-vaccines-work.html

          As an aside, these days I am suspecting that the terrible coughing cold I had in the mid-1980s was actually pertussis. So you are correct in that we need more vaccinated adults.

          What you are arguing is that we need to increase community immunity by making sure adolescents and adults get the Tdap every ten years. I was always baffled why after a certain age that they dropped the pertussis bit from tetanus/diphtheria booster, especially those several weeks of misery thirty years ago were actually caused by pertussis.

          There is definitely a problem with pertussis vaccine efficacy. One reason for the Td boosters every ten years is that even if you survive diphtheria or tetanus, you can get the disease again right after you walk out of the hospital. You simply cannot become immune to the bacteria, which is why the vaccine tries to make you immune to the toxins the bacteria creates. Even after coughing up a lung for two months from pertussis that “natural immunity” may wane in just five years (or twenty if you are lucky). So it is kind of unrealistic to expect the vaccine to provide better immunity than the actual disease. See:
          Pediatr Infect Dis J. 2005 May;24(5 Suppl):S58-61.
          Duration of immunity against pertussis after natural infection or vaccination.

          Edit, because I forgot there is some thinking into better pertussis vaccination, but like all things in medicine it is complicated:
          http://www.nfid.org/idinfo/pertussis/8-possible-options-new-pertussis.pdf

          All of my adult children, my husband and I have had a Tdap booster within the last five years. I encourage everyone to get their boosters. I have always been diligent because I often have my hands in dirt (often mixed with manure enriched compost), getting scratched by rose thorns, and bitten by bugs (ladybug bites hurt!) when I work in my garden.

          • Greg

            I read this as you conceding to my basic premise that for adults no where are we likely to have a 95% vaccination rate, although you’re throwing some caveats here and there. caveats, as this fact reduces your previous calcuclations to — lack of a better word– bunk!
            You have no justification whatsoever to perpetuate the oft, and, unfortunately, unchallenged myth that within a given population more people will be vaccinated. That you would do it in such a condescending way is especially shameful.

          • Chris

            ?

            I am sorry, you said the problem was that protection from the pertussis vaccine wanes. I agreed with that, I even said that I probably had pertussis in the 1980s. It was the bureaucracy of the time that would have considered my vaccine record that counted me as “vaccinated.”

            I also agreed that my numbers were the most optimistic.

            I simply said that adults need to also be vaccinated for pertussis, just like you implied.

  • Mike Valgy

    The system has suppressed the alternatives of how to prevent and cure all those diseases, and so people like Taylor do not know what to do when do not vaccinate their kids. Isn’t that crime also when you withheld cures from public use?

    http://seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/landwehr-r-j_orthomol_med-1991-v6-n2-p99.htm

    • Gabbleduck

      Hilarious link Mike.
      Let me just paraphrase one small part – he treated one patient with “pneumonia” with vitamin c that wasn’t even diagnosed with x-Ray or blood tests, patient not taken to hospital, the guy got better after a couple of days,
      He then claims from this one patient “this is all the evidence we need to prove that vitamin c is the best choice of antibiotic to treat pneumonia” – that’s a little paraphrased but basically what he claims.

      There is a reason that presentation was met with silence and these claims not immediately published in The Lancet. It’s b.s. A sample of one, does not a clinical trial make. The sample of “60” also mentioned in that paper are all over the place – there are so many flaws with the way that was handled as to make it useless as a clinical trial, and the results highly suspect.

      And plenty of actual trials since have shown vitamin C is NOT an antibiotic, or some miracle cure for cancer or viruses. But hey, some stuff a doctor wrote in 1949 must be more accurate than all our new-dangled medical knowledge and research.

      Are you really claiming that instead of vaccination, we should just let kids get sick and pump them full of vitamin C when they do?

      • valgy77

        Decline of infectious disease happened way before we had mass vaccination started with sanitation and better nutrition. Our immune system if properly maintained makes most infectious disease as chicken pox and measles no event and makes our immune system work better. I had them when growing up. Most wild mammals make their own high doses of vitamin C and if they eat what they supposed to eat, they do not get sick. Not sure what you read but this is the quote from the link I posted ” From 1943 through 1947 Dr. Klenner reported successful treatment of 41 more cases of viral pneumonia using massive doses of vitamin C. From these cases he learned what dosage and route of administration — intravenously, intramuscularly, or orally — was best for each patient. Dr. Klenner gave these details in a February 1948 paper published in the Journal of Southern Medicine and Surgery entitled “Virus Pneumonia and Its Treatment with Vitamin C”. This article was the first of Dr. Klenner’s twenty-eight (through 1974) scientific publications. Polio about the same about 60 cases cured. Using vitamin C is very powerful and you do not need to wait till you are sick to use it or take it in higher doses. Take it as a prevention in lower doses and it does the job for most people with normal immune system. So, you do not have to treat everyone with injections or IV . You want one of the most resent cases of high dose vitamin C success? Here it is :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrhkoFcOMII As soon as docs and administrators learned to their amazement that high doses worked to bring the man from the dead, they stop it immediately. Hm I wonder why? It is not good PR for the pharma. to have vitamin C cure ” incurable” or is it?. You tell me. . But you just keep taking those miracle poison pills/vaccines with tract record of zillions of side effects. I stick with simple vitamin C. with a long tract record no medicine can beat.

        • Chris

          Hey, it is the guy who could not how to do third grade division problem even though there is a calculator on his computer!

          Klenner, who never did a controlled study and wrote a proper paper on what he claimed he did? 1948? A television program of one anecdote? Really? Isn’t it better to prevent the causes of pneumonia?

          “Decline of infectious disease happened way before we had mass vaccination started with sanitation and better nutrition.”

          Only if you cannot figure out the difference between the words “morbidity” and “mortality.” The following is US Census records of measles incidence during the 20th century. Please tell us why the number of measles cases declined 90% between 1960 and 1970 in the USA.

          Do not mention deaths, do not mention any other decade, do not mention any other disease, do not mention any other country (England and Wales are not American states), and do not make a claim that the changed the name of the disease (the tests used in the 1990s have nothing to do with the reporting during the 1960s):

          From http://www.census.gov/prod/99pubs/99statab/sec31.pdf
          Year…. Rate per 100000 of measles
          1912 . . . 310.0
          1920 . . . 480.5
          1925 . . . 194.3
          1930 . . . 340.8
          1935 . . . 584.6
          1940 . . . 220.7
          1945 . . . 110.2
          1950 . . . 210.1
          1955 . . . 337.9
          1960 . . . 245.4
          1965 . . . 135.1
          1970 . . . . 23.2
          1975 . . . . 11.3
          1980 . . . . . 5.9
          1985 . . . . . 1.2
          1990 . . . . .11.2
          1991 . . . . . .3.8
          1992 . . . . . .0.9
          1993 . . . . . .0.1
          1994 . . . . . .0.4
          1995 . . . . . .0.1
          1996 . . . . . .0.2
          1997 . . . . . . 0.1

          • valgy77

            Who needs your fake studies you and your shills do and then kill people with it. How many people medicine kills a year? Did you get your math on that one? How many? What a shill you are. Who is paying you ? Tell us that first and then we can discuss more.

          • Chris

            Are you denying the existence of the US Census? It must be because you also fail at basic counting.

          • valgy77

            You are full of it. Shill.

          • Chris

            You are hilarious.

          • This is a riot. Please, go on!

        • Chris

          More about that one anecdote:
          http://sciblogs.co.nz/griffins-gadgets/2010/08/20/sins-of-omission-in-60-minutes-miracle-story/

          This is why television stories, no matter where they come from, are not scientific evidence. One way to get quality scientific research is to use PubMed indexed studies by qualified reputable researchers that are replicated.

  • susandaytoday

    This is 100% bull shite ! Anything to scare people into the dangerous vaccines that are causing cancer, sids, diabetes, autism and DEATH , ocd, panic attacks and seizures to name a few you bunch of lying hype hypocrites . Your poisons cause disease not prevent !!!!!!!!

    • Chris

      Yawn, and the march of the satirically clueless functional innumerate goes on. Oh, Poe Poe us!

    • MisterLiteral

      Aren’t you doing exactly what you are criticizing others for?

      You are creating fear of “cancer, sids (correctly spelled *SIDS), diabetes, autism and DEATH , ocd, panic attacks and seizures to name a few..” without any respectable evidence to back up your claims.

      That makes you the “lying hypocrite”.

      Also, you need a lesson on satire, and how to detect it.

    • John Sims

      You are ridiculous. The article is satire. How quickly people forget what a polio outbreak is like. Do you understand that vaccines are the reason for the population booming in the 20th century? No you would rather believe a dr who has admitted to lying and a porn star over actual medical professionals
      Sincerely
      Father of a child with autism and husband of physician

      • Robert D. Bean

        There are hundreds of PhD’s, MD’s, MIT scientists that are anti-vaxx, don’t forget that! There are reasons for avoiding vaccines that you wouldn’t understand without truly doing your own research. Not even your MD wife

        • Chris

          “There are hundreds of PhD’s, MD’s, MIT scientists that are anti-vaxx, don’t forget that!”

          Please provide us a list. Make sure none are computer scientists, MBAs, engineers, lawyers, or listed on the following website:
          http://americanloons.blogspot.com/

          By the way, Mr. Bean just used the “argument from authority”, albeit very badly. He made a general statement of “hundreds”, and did not state the name of any of those persons of authority. So we will add that he used the “argument from blatant assertion.” I don’t know if that is real fallacy, but it should be.

  • scottdouglasjohnson

    Throw the nutbar in jail for negligence.

    • John Sims

      Bruh, satirical

  • Bill

    The law should be changed so this type of non-sense can be prosecuted as involuntary manslaughter. In the mean time, and minimum this woman, and possible the husban can be prosecuted for 4 counts of felony fraud. One for each child she submitted VAERS. If this is a state with 3 strikes law, a guilty conviction on all 4 could put them away for the rest of their child bearing years.

    • John Sims

      Satire bro

      • Bill

        Satire is a genre of literature, and sometimes
        graphic and performing arts, in which vices, follies, abuses, and
        shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming
        individuals, corporations, government or society itself, into
        improvement.

        Are you saying this article is fake?

        • Chris

          “Are you saying this article is fake?”

          Yes. It is as fake as that “modest proposal” by Jonathan Swift (the same guy who gave us the word “Yahoo”).

          • Bill

            I can’t believe I fell for it. Usually I look for this these things carefully, but by using facts that were to easy to check, and too easy to get sued over like an actual name I swallowed it hook line and sinker…

            Define sarcasm: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny

            Definition of satire: a way of using humor to show that someone or something is foolish, weak, bad, etc.

            sarcasm + satire: a way of using humor to show that someone or something is wise, strong, good, etc. in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny

            Definition lie: something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture

            In this case the only humorous aspect is the author thinks it is funny to fool people. Which makes it all three, and impossible to recognize as satire or sarcasm without checking the facts or the source.

          • Chris

            Actually, not all satire is humorous. Trust me, “A Modest Proposal” is quite shocking, and not that humorous. It was presented in my 9th grade English class as one of the forms of satire. By the way Gulliver’s Travels is not a children’s book, and is often quite grim.

            The top and bottom of this page includes a title “The Spudd”, and a subtitle “science, health, satire.” It is an related to the Anti Vax Wall of Shame. Which includes stories like parents who let their kids suffer from pertussis, and one who was quite proud of herself for letting her kids suffer (look up Heather Dexter).

          • Or you could, you know, just look at the site’s logo, which is available at both the top and bottom of each page. “The Spudd Times: Science, Health, Satire.”

  • Samara Draven

    Say it with me now…. S…..A……T……I……R…..E…..

    • skrudrvr

      Ah. Saw it after I posted. Not very familiar with this site. Pretty sick satire. And I’m provaccine btw

      • Samara Draven

        lol! Happens to the best of us. =D I’m pro-vaccine too and I can appreciate a good joke. This wasn’t it. And far too many are taking it seriously to boot. =/ If the anti-vax crowd are seemingly less educated, then by the inverse; those who value the science (and the intellectualism behind it) should – presumably – be more educated (because that’s how dichotomies supposedly work) and be too clever to fall for this nonsense. Because falling for nonsense is what anti-vaxxers do. 😉

        • Chris

          It is easy to be taken in by a satire site if someone posts a link to an “article” in blog comments. Today I clicked on this one:
          http://thelapine.ca/79-year-old-bird-watcher-takes-down-oregon-militant-with-old-high-school-wrestling-move/

          Unlike this site it does not indicate it is satire on both the top and bottom of the page, you have to scroll all the way to the bottom. Though the bunny silhouette and the titles of the other articles are a hint that it is much like The Onion, but with slightly different spelling.

        • Bernadette Harrison

          Oh really, of course you know everything!. Tell that to Prof. Yehuda Shoenfeld et al who coined the term A.S.I.A. autoimmune syndrome induced by adjuvants. A term for people who have fallen victim to vaccines through their genetics. Of course you be a know-it-all would know what those autoimmune genes are??!. http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/first-medical-textbook-devoted-to-research-linking-vaccines-to-autoimmunity

          • Chris

            I’ve heard of him! He was one of the presenters who got a trip to Jamaica via rich anti-vaccine folks:
            http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/10/06/the-2011-vaccine-safety-conference-in-jamaica/

            Other presenters included Andrew Wakefield, Barbara Loe Fisher, Russell Blaylock, and others that are not thought of very highly here.

          • Samara Draven

            You are wasting your time.

          • Chris

            I understand. Though I was having trouble finding out that particular guy until I stumbled on the fact he was at that quack fest.

          • Samara Draven

            Oh. Sorry. That was my response to said quack. =) I thought your reply was awesome. I’m about to go to work so I don’t have time to engage anyone (not that I give my time to fools anyway… 😉 and I found your input of merit. Rock on. =)

          • Chris

            Oops, missed that! And thanks.

      • Elmo

        Satire can be very sick and twisted, to get it’s point across. This piece wasn’t amusing, but I don’t think that was it’s purpose either. It takes the absolute worst case scenario (all the children perishing) and gives it an extra twist just to really really underline the absurdity that there are people out there who literally are risking this happening to them.
        Autism is in every single way preferable to death. Always.

        Aaaand vaccines does not cause autism. 🙂

    • BT

      LMBO! 🙂

  • skrudrvr

    OK I have to ask if this is true? I’ve googled this woman and find plenty of her anti-vaxxer links but can’t find anything saying any of her children have died except from this site.

    • John Sims

      Satire

  • chronicalmass

    it would help us to identify this as satire if it was actually, you know, funny.

    • Chris

      Satire is not always funny. Didn’t you read “A Modest Proposal” by Jonathan Swift in high school?

    • Lee Donovan

      The very top of the page reads: “The Spudd Times…Science, Health, Satire…” also, satire need not always be humorous.

  • Kinsey Davis

    Anti Vaxxers are stupid but this isn’t funny… Not the human life is sacred and children are precious not funny… It’s just plain not funny

    • Chris

      Do you think “A Modest Proposal” by Jonathan Swift is funny?

      • Kinsey Davis

        Been so long since I’ve read I can’t even remember

        • Chris

          It involved eating Irish babies.

          • Kinsey Davis

            Yeah I know the premise I just don’t remember if I liked it or not

          • Chris

            I remember being quite shocked. Which is probably why after over forty years it is still stuck in my head (plus a little help from wikipedia).

            Sometimes when absolutely horrible stuff is being done, like attitudes to the Irish almost four hundred years ago or a mother like Heather Dexter being proud for letting her kids suffer from pertussis for months, the very unfunny type of satire is a standard reaction. There is no way to make it humorous. But there is a way to exaggerate to ridiculous proportions. And hopefully make some folks think (you can see that it did not work with some a couple of months ago, and no, no one has done my little math quiz).

          • Kinsey Davis

            Yeah I understand the reaction. I think it was a bit lost on me because when I read it I was getting my history degree and was reading a lot of primary source material on Irish poverty… The brits were not as sympathetic as one would hope. Can see why the Irish were so pissed off after a few hundred years of that sort of treatment

          • Chris

            Ah, it is all about context and perhaps age. I was fifteen years old and not a sleep deprived college student.

            The reason the quite unfunny article above resonates with me is that I nursed three kids through chicken pox a year before the vaccine was available. One of those kids recently turned twenty one… she was a six month old baby in 1994 (and fully breastfed, neither of my younger kids liked weaning nor solid food). Plus my oldest was so sick he wet the bed each night (the easiest to potty train!), which inflamed his pox even more. One kid in the school attended by the oldest, who was in kindergarten, ended up in the hospital with a secondary bacterial infection that almost required an amputation of a limb.

            I am not very sympathetic to those who think kids should get sick. There are several blog comments I have written calling them sadistic child haters. That is the only explanation I can think of that would make someone think a small child should spend up to two weeks covered with dozens to hundreds of itchy open wounds (pox).

        • Chris

          Another example of satire that is also not so funny, but quite pointed, is Terry Gilliam’s movie Brazil.

          • Kinsey Davis

            That was quite a campaign on the part of Terry Gilliam to get that thing released

          • Chris

            I loved that movie! Though my husband hated it.

            It reminds me of the bureaucratic hoops I often had to go through, especially now that I am trying to get my adult autistic son out of the house with supported employment and housing (and the years before with IEPs, oh and the stuff at work, then there was dealing with mortgage banks, universities… um, you get the picture). Hubby is trying to retire from work, and since we both lost a parent in childhood we are really worried what will happen to our son.

            An example: last month I got a letter from one state department that he was an “Able Bodied Adult Without Dependents”, but the month before I received the official notice from the Dept. of Developmental Disabilities that he was eligible because his autism was severe enough. When I called the state’s human services office which covers both departments, I learned that the person we met in October from the first department actually put in their official record that he was disabled! I still faxed the letter from the DDD to that other department. Le sigh.

  • anthonyd

    I have never been vaccinated in my entire life and i have never had a problem. Im 19 and living a health and happy life disease free. Vaccines are harmfull to our bodies.

    • Henryk Yoorevitch

      And your stupidity is harmful to our society.

      • anthonyd

        Well your stupidity for taking the stuff in the first place is typical of himan society nowaday, also it is not my fault that i have a medical condition (that was caused by vacines when my mum was pregnant) that does not allow me to have a live virous to wnter my bloodstreme which rules out vacines for me. Get a life DUDE

        • Kenton Forshee

          If you’ve never been vaccinated and never been sick it means you were relying on the herd immunity from that large group of people who DID get vaccinated. So you have everyone else to thank for your health pretty much. So You’re both welcome, and you suck, because rather than acknowledging that reality you go around blasting the very thing that kept you healthy albeit second handedly.

        • SocraticGadfly

          You also need to learn how to spell. And, I’d like to hear more about this condition. Not saying it doesn’t exist, but … got a name for it? Medical info link?

        • Chris

          ” does not allow me to have a live virous to wnter my bloodstreme”

          Well, then you should be okay, because no vaccine is given intravenously. Plus many vaccines are for bacterial infections, and some vaccines are made from yeast.

        • Ryan Meyers

          Obviously not being vaccinated has made you retarded. You can’t even talk like a normal person, you can’t spell even as good as my 9 year old sister. All of you anti – vaccine dumbass should be shot. You’re doing nothing but making things more dangerous for yourself and those around you. And you’re so naive that you think vaccines “hurt people”. Let me know when your dumbass gets polio and die like a fucking retard. Go get your fucking shots and grow the fuck up and stop blaming everything on vaccines. You’re just dumb, it’s not the vaccines fault your mother had a failed abortion and it has made you dumber than rocks.

    • It’s me

      I have been vaccinated as normal, and I’ve never had whooping cough, polio, measles, tetanus………..your point?

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    • Fritz

      Well, I had the measles before the vaccine was available. I almost died. I still remember the vivid hallucinations and feeling life slipping away. I suffered neurological damage as a result. Some of the children my age were not as fortunate. They died, lost their eyesight, or had severe brain damage. Vaccines are worth the miniscule risk.

  • Billy O’Shea

    This is satire, and should be labelled as such. It’s already being
    spread around the net as a true story – which is exactly what the
    anti-vaxxers also do.

  • lisa

    wow- this is so fake! I hope this person sues for slander and false information.

    • Chris

      Actually it is a test of concepts taught in 9th grade English classes. The first step was to read the title of the page and understanding the meaning of all its words.

      I am afraid you did not pass. Please go back to your high school, give back your diploma and tell them they failed to teach you the use of satire as social commentary.

  • shay simmons

    This is… cruel.

  • Susan Fickett Keeney

    This is murder.

  • Michele Waldman-Goodwin

    This is pure satirical news. Very disturbing.

  • Wolf

    Fake!

  • Neo

    Wow…pro vax folk have no life.
    Sad really at the ignorance to sit there and make up a story.
    Actually it’s the other way around.
    Children die from vaccines than childhood diseases.

    • AutismDadd

      Its part of the misinformation strategy. Some pro-vac loon will spread it around as true and other loons too, like a disease of DUH

  • Adrian Lombardini

    This is a stupid satire. But since provaxxers are exactly that, stupid, they will share it as truth. And this page knows it, and that’s their aim. As long as they keep spreading fear, people will keep vaccinating.

    • Paul Duca

      As I said–sounds like you’re happing not having to deal in any way with those who die from not being vaccinated, but don’t like having to cough up (in taxes) to aid those supposedly affected by being vaccinated.

  • Jason Wilson

    Vaccine lovers will think this is real, and share it. Unvaccinated kids are healthier.

    • Chris

      Not really, because we know how to read, and understand both statistics and satire. Plus we are all laughing at all of your Dunning-Kruger responses, they have all been hilarious.

      • Jason Wilson

        I have a statistic for you. My best friend’s healthy dad was temporarily paralyzed and nearly killed after a flu shot. He was diagnosed with Guillaine-Barre syndrome, which is listed as a possible adverse affect on the vaccine insert. Even the MDs confirmed this was a result of the shot. If only you vaccine dogmatists could read a vaccine package insert. Now why would anyone believe you people when they see the effects on their own loved ones? Hahahahahahaha, you are works of satire yourself. You don’t need fake articles.

        • Chris

          That is not a statistic, that is an anecdote. The plural of anecdote is not data. You don’t even know what the word “statistic” means.

          • Jason Wilson

            Oh, you stupid, over-literal fool. I have a FACT. Vaccines can PARALYZE you. Keep nit-picking semantics. When I personally witness a vaccine nearly kill a loved one, you pharma-worshipping morons can give all the doctored “statistics” in the world. The rest of us are looking at people around us go to the emergency room after a vaccine. The truth becomes clearer each day. Keep taking the side of the medicinal cartel. Statistics show that the US is one of only TWO nations to legalize endless pharmaceutical commercials on TV. Side effects may include death.

          • Chris

            “Oh, you stupid, over-literal fool.”

            Just because I am literate? You are hilarious.

          • Jason Wilson

            yes. it shows not only a lack of understanding, creativity, and imagination. It also shows that you have nothing to add to the discussion. Go visit some kids paralyzed by vaccines. Talk to their families, you coward. You are disgusting. Not literate, you IDIOT. LITERAL. You moron, LOL!

          • Chris

            “Go visit some kids paralyzed by vaccines. Talk to their families, you coward.”

            Prove that they exist in numbers greater than the kids who died from influenza, which is about a hundred a year. These are the real statistics:
            http://gis.cdc.gov/GRASP/Fluview/PedFluDeath.html

            Instead of random insults, you need to provide the PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers that any vaccine on the current American pediatric schedule causes more harm than the disease. The above linked page shows that this year 77 children have died from flu, and last year it was 148 kids. Also, measles causes encephalitis in about one out of a thousand cases, which can often cause blindness, deafness, and paralysis.

            Here are some examples of acceptable citations:

            Vaccine. 2012 Jan 5;30(2):247-53.
            Lack of association between childhood immunizations and encephalitis in California, 1998-2008.

            Pediatrics Vol. 126 No. 2 August 1, 2010
            Lack of Association Between Acellular Pertussis Vaccine and Seizures in Early Childhood

            Pediatr Infect Dis J. 2006 Sep;25(9):768-73.
            Encephalopathy after whole-cell pertussis or measles vaccination: lack of evidence for a causal association in a retrospective case-control study.

            If you want to have an adult discussion on a science/medical topic, you will have to learn that certain words have very precise meanings. The word “statistics” always means that there is more than an N=1. One anecdote is not actual data (“data” is plural for “datum”). So come up with some real statistics, or just be considered another random hilarious troll that are commonly subjects of satire on this blog:
            http://thesciencepost.com/anti-vaccers-slam-scientists-for-using-science/

          • Jason Wilson

            So you’d like me to forget you don’t know the difference between “literal” and “literate.” That’s amusing. Well considering the flu vaccine only protects against one strain, and the strain they choose is never the dominant one…Then we can assume the flu vaccine today has little to zero effect in protecting individuals against the flu.

            I don’t have to prove anything to you. You’re too much of a spineless coward and soulless degenerate to go and seek even ONE of these families out and hear their side of the story. They’re easy to find. They’re in facebook groups, often vocal vaccine critics, often found right here in the comments on vaccine-related news stories.

            You want to engage with me, argue with Me, ask Me to “prove” the numbers of injured children or adults. Yet you won’t admit you have no interest in reality. You want to provide links to the CDC, an agency now having lost all credibility, exposed in congressional hearings, through unintentional whistleblowers like William Thompson or intentional ones like Diane Harper.

            You don’t have the guts or the integrity to talk to ONE mother of ONE child who was paralyzed, blinded, brain-damaged, or killed following one of your toxic pharmaceuticals. Medical mistakes are the number three cause of death in the U.S. We’re counting all you Minions who are assisting in the mass murder. I’ll give all your names and internet handles to the angry parents of the deceased and disabled.

          • Chris

            Trollin’ Trollin’ Trollin’
            Trollin’ Trollin’ Trollin’
            Trollin’ Trollin’ Trollin’
            Trollin’ Trollin’ Trollin’
            Rawhide!
            Trollin’ Trollin’ Trollin’
            Though the threads are swollen
            Keep them comments trollin’,
            Rawhide!

            Move ’em on
            (Head em’ up!)
            Head em’ up
            (Move ’em on!)
            Move ’em on
            (Head em’ up!)
            Rawhide!
            Cut ’em out
            (Paste ’em in!)
            Paste’em in
            (Cut em’ out!)
            Cut ’em out
            Paste ’em in,
            Rawhide!
            Keep trollin’, trollin’, trollin’
            Though they’re disaprovin’
            Keep them comments trollin”,
            Rawhide
            Don’t try to understand ’em
            Just rope, laugh, and ignore ’em
            Soon we’ll be discussin’ bright without ’em

            It was quite amusing that my use of the word “literate” went right over your head, it was a jab at your underwhelming brilliance — and that we really don’t care about whiny little concerns, because we are really just laughing at you:
            http://thesciencepost.com/anti-vaccer-truly-believes-he-won-argument-on-facebook-by-citing-natural-news/
            and
            http://thesciencepost.com/anti-vaccers-rank-youtube-facebook-blogs-as-top-three-sources-of-credible-information/

          • Paul Duca

            I think Jason is more concerned about the burden on society (especially in the pocketbook) those supposedly disabled by vaccination create. Someone gets a disease and croaks–out of the way.

          • Chris

            Excuse me? You do realize that diseases cause disability. Congenital rubella syndrome is one known cause of autism, plus deafness, blindness, death, etc.. Haemophilus influenzae type b can cause meningitis that can result in deafness, blindness, death, etc. Mumps used to be one of the more common reasons for disease acquired deafness. And measles… a big cause of blindness, deafness, paralysis, neurological disorders, in addition to death.

            If you want to actually speak for Jason, then you can provide the PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers that any vaccine on the present American pediatric schedule causes more harm than the vaccine.

          • Paul Duca

            I am speaking against him…I am saying his mentality is that an unvaccinated child will either recover unscathed or die…the odds of someone being disabled by a disease is presumably FAR lower than being disabled by a vaccine.

          • Chris

            Sorry, you had a very confusing way of doing that. Thanks for clarifying.

          • AutismDadd

            buh wah ha ha

          • AutismDadd

            Paul is so clueless he argues with his supporters…priceless

          • It’s called specialties.

          • AutismDadd

            Its called working toward a degree in moronship.

          • Which would be a speciality.

          • AutismDadd

            It could be. You have my endless support.

          • AutismDadd

            Don’t take that lip from Chris, he’s a troll hoping to cause trouble.

          • AutismDadd

            Grow up juvenile

          • AutismDadd

            juvenile. Must be pro-vaccine.

          • Chris

            “I don’t have to prove anything to you. You’re too much of a spineless coward and soulless degenerate to go and seek even ONE of these families out and hear their side of the story. They’re easy to find. They’re in facebook groups, often vocal vaccine critics, often found right here in the comments on vaccine-related news stories”

            Here is one, I dare you to read it:
            http://ia902504.us.archive.org/31/items/gov.uscourts.cofc.2340/gov.uscourts.cofc.2340.118.0.pdf

          • AutismDadd

            Just as you are to afraid to acknowledge the NVICP and at least 18 other vaccine injury compensation plans exist.

          • Chris

            Oh, absolutely not. I love this little math story problem from the NVICP, that you should try answering:

            Look at the first table on this NVICP statistics page:
            http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data/statisticsreport.pdf

            Now go to the bottom of the page and find the total number of vaccines given during a set time period. It is 2,532,428,541 vaccine doses (a bit over 2.5 billion). Now run your finger along the row and find the total number of compensated claims, it is 2265 claims.

            Now divide the first number by the second number. Please give us that number, and then explain what it means.

          • AutismDadd

            No thanks minion. Its nothing but lies.

          • Chris

            Aw, another person who does not know how to find a calculator! You are hilarious!

          • AutismDadd

            Tell you what genius you can explain it all to me in your next reply.

          • AutismDadd

            Doesn’t include all victims, so its bogus.

          • Yes, it does. What it doesn’t include is fantasies.

          • AutismDadd

            Yawn

          • Chris

            So you do not understand how to get a ratio? That is hilarious that you cannot figure out why the ratio of 2.5 billion vaccine doses against 2500 compensated claims means.

            And by the way, if you had bothered to even click on the pdf of the the statistics, and actually had someone help you read it, you would learn most of them were “settlements” where there was really no definite proof it the issues were caused by the vaccine.

          • AutismDadd

            Lame. You mean blood money, guilt money, hush money, not settlements. The system is a mess and its not at all about honoring the injured or examining the merits or even the evidence. Its more like the 12 item grocery line. Herd in Herd out. Its a production line.

          • Chris
          • AutismDadd

            I dare you to take up cliff diving.

          • agscienceliterate

            Ah, you’re also an anti-vaxxer. Not surprised.

          • agscienceliterate

            And you don’t have the guts or integrity to talk to ONE mother whose kid died of a totally preventable disease. You are an anti-vaxxer, a “chemtrails” conspiracy theorist, a New World Order conspiracy theorist, and an admitted John Bircher. Whatta guy.
            Science, to you, is like Kryptonite is to Superman.

          • Jason Wilson

            why, you’re a liar, sir. I am not a member of the John Birch Society.

            I am a student of “The Round Table Groups” described by Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, who wrote a 1,000 page history book called “Tragedy and Hope.” Check that one out 😉 You appear to be in need of a history lesson.

            I’m a huge fan of Professor Antony Sutton, whose scholarly studies of western support of Soviet Russia expose the great divide between the history that is taught and actual history.

            As a sometime-supporter, sometime critic of the John Birch Society, I would encourage people to research the life and tragic death of John Birch himself.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_(missionary)

            Inform yourself about history, and you’ll understand the present more thoroughly 😉

          • agscienceliterate

            A sometime-supporter of the John Birch society is quite disgusting enough for me.

          • AutismDadd

            Same old lame old. Are you 15 years old?

          • agscienceliterate

            You insult all parents who care enough about their kids enough to vaccinate them against preventable childhood diseases. You are not getting any converts to your anti-vax antiGMO rants, and you waste a lot of energy you should be putting into helping your kid at school, at home, etc. Go do something useful for the world, and for people with autism. Go earn some money and donate to your local Autism Society. They know who you are, and although they have no interest in hearing your tired old angry rants anymore, they would appreciate the money and would know how to use it on behalf of kids with autism.

          • AutismDadd

            Hilarious. I don’t insult parents who vac or tell them what to think or do. Bozo’s like you are in charge of that. And I would never give $$ to organizations like Autism Speaks who has now officially sold out to Big Pharma.

          • AutismDadd

            You’re an insult to intelligence everywhere.

          • AutismDadd

            The only effect vaccine makers care about is the greenback ca-ching syndrome every winter. It shows fear based marketing works REAL GOOD

          • AutismDadd

            bbbrraattt

          • agscienceliterate

            Says the anti-vaxxer who is ok with kids dying of absolutely preventable diseases. Who is also a “chemtrail” (no such thing) conspiracy theorist, an admitted John Bircher, and who buys into the fictitious “New World Order” conspiracy. A real nutter.

          • Jason Wilson

            You’d have to be really stupid to believe what you say.

            I recommend people research Carroll Quigley’s history tome “Tragedy and Hope.”

            I can supply “Times of London,” articles, the many works and talks by National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, whom I doubt you’ve ever heard of, etc.

            I’m informed. Ready for me to start posting more links for research? I’m happy to discuss these issues with you any time, and anyone else that wishes to.

          • agscienceliterate

            Sorry, dude. Someone who believes in “chemtrails” (no such thing), is a conspiracy theorist, a “sometime-supporter” of John Birch, and a New World Order nutter is not “informed,” I hate to tell ya.
            And you are perfectly ok letting kids die of entirely preventable diseases. Not only uninformed, but kind of disgusting.

          • AutismDadd

            Sums it up, ag is really stupid

          • AutismDadd

            Hey clown, a community in B.C. Canada had a measles outbreak among a religious sect. 350 cases. One hospitalized with full revovery. So 350 now have life long immunity. Explain why 350 aren’t 6 feet under.

          • AutismDadd

            As we see no response from self appointed genius agscienceliterate…..par for the course

          • AutismDadd

            HELLO AGMEISTER??? Where’s my reply???

          • 655321

            You’re either a paid troll, or suffer severe cognitive dissonance as an establishment sucking gofer.

          • AutismDadd

            Is that really in the shill manual or did that just drop out your buttocks?

          • agscienceliterate

            I don’t get paid, but thanks for your acknowledgment that my posts are superior enough to warrant shill payment. I’m just curious about a lot of things. Like the apparent inverse relationship between your immense intense out of control anger, and your science acumen about autism. Curious.

          • AutismDadd

            Well maybe if you research you might find out.

          • AutismDadd

            Another duh Moment from ag-boy.

          • Rick

            Technically, it is a statistic. But it’s not statistics, many of which are required before a meaningful conclusion can be drawn.

          • Chris

            Le sigh. It was a case report, with an N=1. A statistic is the result or fact taken from several pieces of data (and there is often a minimum sample size). The mean of a set of data is a statistic:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistic

            The statistics would be the collection of facts derived from the data, which could include the average, mean, standard deviations, skew, and even the errors from type of sampling and sample size, etc. It also refers to the discipline of analyzing data, as a subset of mathematics:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics

            Still, the plural of anecdote is not data. The one piece of data (the anecdote) is not a statistic.

          • Rick

            OK. At least we agree that a single data point has limited usefulness.

          • Chris

            Now, all one has to do is systematically gather a few thousand more verifiable data points.

        • agscienceliterate

          Your anti-vaxxer diatribe is entirely consistent with your anti–GE diatribe.

          • AutismDadd

            Oh a diatribe….how wonderful

        • AutismDadd

          Evidence doesn’t matter to pro-vacs, only name calling.

        • Sonja Henie

          I am certain the MDs didn’t confirm your friend contracted GBS from his flu shot, as GBS can be contracted from any infection, and sometimes from having surgery.

          • AutismDadd

            You? Certain? Buh Wah Ha Ha

          • 655321

            Where’s your buddy Adam? You guys hanging at the mall tomorrow wearing your “I’m with stupid” T-shirts?

          • Jason Wilson

            You are certain the MDs didn’t confirm it? My, how arrogant. I didn’t know you were there. I can put you in touch with him and he’ll confirm it. But you wouldn’t believe then, either, would you? I think the truth is less important to you than your own world-view, which you should learn to question.

          • Sonja Henie

            Yes, I’m certain, because you can’t say with certainty why someone got GBS. It’s as simple as that. You can say it’s possible, you can even say it’s probable, but you can’t confirm 100%.

          • Jason Wilson

            whether they Should confirm it is one issue. But they told him it was the vaccines. Period. THEY CONFIRMED IT. And they are “the professionals.” Looks like you deniers and now having to deny your own coveted trained experts. The GBS/vaccine link is ON THE VACCINE INSERTS and you deny it can have neurological effects. How many kids will suffer long term harm from you efforts this year?

          • AutismDadd

            Buh wah Ha Ha 655321 really gets you in the next reply

          • AutismDadd

            Where did your bs come from?

        • JGC

          In what year did your friend’s dad contract GBS? In 1976 a small increase in risk of GBS was associated with that year’s vaccine against swine flu–an incidence of 1 excess case per every 100,000 vaccinations–but in all other years the risk, is on the order of 1 excess case for every 1 million vaccinations delivered.

          By contrast, the number of excess cases of GBS associated with influenza infection is on the order of 4 to 7 cases per 100,000 people infected.

          see http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/guillainbarre.htm and PMID: 19025491

          • Jason Wilson

            The medical professionals working with him acknowledged the vaccines were almost 100% linked to his GBS. Period. thanks for CDC link. But those liars can’t even provide an honest study of the phenomenon. They CAN omit and alter data, though, according to their own Dr. William Thompson. Never heard about that in the pharma sponsored media, did ya? 😉 but you guys have no issue with cover-ups. You thrive on them.

          • JGC

            You didn’t indicate in what year this occurred, Jason, and I’m having a hard time understanding what those anonymous medical professionals could have meant by “almost 100% linked”–that the vaccine was seen to cause GBS in almost 100% of all people vaccinated? That it was almost certain that the vaccine caused excess cases of GBS at a very low incidence rate?

            “They CAN omit and alter data, though, according to their own Dr. William Thompson.”
            Thompson never made such a claim: Brian Hooker and Andrew Wakefield did, and they were demonstrably wrong when they did so (certainly Brian Hooker had no trouble getting his hands on the ‘omitted data’ to conduct his irrevocably flawed and rapidly retracted ‘reanalysis’ of the DeStefano data set.)

          • Jason Wilson

            Regarding Thompson, listen to the secretly recorded phone calls for his confessions, whistleblower statements. I will post them if you deny they exist.

            His doctor told him it was the vaccine. You can argue whether their statement was valid, and doubt the professionals you usually adhere to, but you cannot deny the reality. I know the family well and heard this first-hand. Go talk to them and his doctors. They are not anonymous, by the way. I simply have not published their names on the web for pharma trolls to assault.

          • JGC

            I will, as soon as they are released with Thompson’s approval, in their entirety and uninterrupted so his statements aren’t removed from context.

            Why can you not tell me which year this occurred/what vaccine he received? If it were the 1976 swine flu vaccine he was told caused his GBS then I’d have no reason to doubt his doctor’s identification of the vaccine as its cause. If it were any other year I would have cause to doubt the identification.

            “Go talk to them and his doctors”
            How do you propose I do so, given that you have not provided their names for fear of ‘assault’?

          • Jason Wilson

            he did receive the ’76 swine flu shot. after a more recent flu shot, his nervous system began to shut down. GBS. Doctors were smart enough to identify and treat before it shut down his lungs.

          • JGC

            So, no GBS with the one vaccine known to be associated with excess incidences of GBS, and GBS following vaccination with vaccines not demonstrated to cause excess GBS? Have I got that straight?
            If so, and If I were that doctor, I wouldn’t conclude his GBS was causally associated with the recent vaccination he received as all that would support that conclusion is the fact receipt of the vaccination and the onset of symptoms occurred at about the same time.

          • Jason Wilson

            “If I were that doctor,” you say? You mean IF you WERE a doctor at all, yes?
            hahaha, oh my God a real LOL from one of you pharmapologists! Dude just said “If I were that doctor,” hahahaha, oooooh that’s rich.
            Thanks for the laugh.

          • JGC

            I’ve never claimed to be a physician, so I having trouble seeing your point. I have been employed as a research biologist/molecular biologist/immunologist in various capacities for more than three decades, on the other hand, and I’m speaking from that body of experience.

            yes, I am not a doctor. And yes, in the absence of additional evidence I fail to see any reason the physician should reach that conclusion.

          • Jason Wilson

            As an immunologist, you certainly are aware of the controversy about vaccines within your own profession. Immunologist Dr Tetyana Obukhanych has some interesting things to say about vaccination:

            http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/06/13/interview-with-phd-immunologist-dr-tetyana-obukhanych-by-catherine-frompovich/

          • TannersMom Kim

            This person?

            “Appeal to false authority – who is Tetyana Obukhanych?”
            http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/appeal-to-false-authority-who-is-tetyana-obukhanych/

            “There is nothing in her background that indicates she has compiled robust and scientifically important evidence about vaccines. Pro-science (and pro-vaccination) people are unimpressed with credentials, because the ONLY thing that matters is the quality and quantity of published, peer-reviewed evidence.”

          • JGC

            I’m unaware that there is any controversy within the scientific community regarding the safety and benefits of routine childhood vaccination, seasonal flu vaccination, etc.

          • Jason Wilson

            Unaware or willfully ignorant? 😉 I think we both know the answer to that one. People who wish to inform themselves may click the link above to hear from an actual immunologist about the dangers vaccination poses to our NATURAL IMMUNE SYSTEMS (which we need, folks)

            Or you can read her book “Vaccine Illusion: How Vaccination Compromises Our Natural Immunity and What We Can Do to Regain Our Health.”

          • JGC

            No, unaware.

            That ‘actual immunologist’ (Tatyana Obukhanych), who does have a Ph. D in Immunology and was formerly a post doc at Harvard University and once part of a research team at Standford University School of Medicine, although in what capacity is unclear. She has a total of eight published research papers, none which have anything to do with vaccines and none of which lists her as a corresponding author.

            She does not appear currently to be associated with any academic research program anywhere..

            Her pamphlet (it’s 53 pages long) “Vaccine Illusion: How Vaccination Compromises Our Natural Immunity and What We Can Do to Regain Our Health” and self published on Kindle. It has not been subjected to peer review of any sort and is replete cherry picking of studies, misrepresenting the conclusions of studies cited, and trivially false statements (for example, she claims that inactivated poliovirus vaccines cannot prevent the transmission of polio, which would come as shocking news to Sweden, which eliminated wild-type polio by means of IPV vaccination).

            And(perhaps most damning she let herself be interviewed for an antivaccine article published at whale-to.

            You are familiar with Scopie’s :aw, I trust?

    • agscienceliterate

      Tell that to saying parents of children who have suffered from diseases that are now preventable. Your arrogance is appalling.

      • AutismDadd

        Stuff it loser

        • agscienceliterate

          I thought you also railed against name-calling. Yet you have, in this thread only, called people “clown” and “loser” and “clueless” and “juvenile.”
          When was the last time you put down the whiskey glass and took a real long look in the mirror? Do you like what you see? Well, neither do we.

          • AutismDadd

            I’m not an alcoholic like you.

          • agscienceliterate

            And more of the same. AD, you are a very angry man. You need anger management. You are out of control. Look in the mirror. Get a grip. Do something useful, or do not even pretend to call yourself a “dad.” Engaged and responsible fathers do not act the way you do.

          • AutismDadd

            How would you know Jethro? Seems assumptions are all you have, and a big mouth.

          • Jason Wilson

            Know what? You ARE a total loser. Imagine being a dad who watched their kid change after vaccination and having some ignorant clown crawl out from under a rock and say “it never happened!” I would like to see such a parent knock the shit out of your irrelevant ass. God willing, you will get what you deserve. Nice drawing there, you ignorant cancer on humanity.

    • agscienceliterate

      Any citations about that, anti-vaxxer? Of course not. Not surprised.

    • sabelmouse

      more like people who can’t/don’t think.

  • Adrian Lombardini

    I would say that the type of scum who write this kind of crap should one day find themselves with a vaccine-damaged son or daughter. Then they would learn the truth the same way most of us did: the hard way, by first hand experience.

    • Rick

      Kook.

    • sabelmouse

      though i couldn’t /wouldn’t want to wish tat on their children.

    • Neo

      I would never wish for a child to suffer because of a parents ignorance.
      What you should wish for is, for that scum you speak of to have a nasty vaccine reaction.
      Too many children die and are damaged from vaccines everyday of no fault of theirs.
      It’s very disturbing and tragic!!

  • AutismDadd

    Its a shame this tripe is taking up space on the inter-web

  • 655321

    Articles like this smell of desperation…more people’s eyes are opening ti the vaccine myth.

    • AutismDadd

      Yes after they eyewitness their child’s reaction after a series of vaccines. I meet them everywhere. Basic conversations happen and out comes the stories how their child had a serious reaction, and many times their doctor is well aware and supportive.

      • JGC

        “After” is not a synonym for “because” of”, AD.

        • AutismDadd

          I’ll need you gold standard peer reviewed science showing that to be accurate.

          • AutismDadd

            What a joke.

          • AutismDadd

            I had fun laughing at it.

          • What did you laugh at, exactly?

          • AutismDadd

            No exactly, its just great comedy

          • What’s great comedy?

          • AutismDadd

            Great comedy is great comedy.

          • Tautologies are tautologies!

          • AutismDadd

            See you get it. Baby steps, so I went slow.

          • So what’s the next lesson, prof?

          • AutismDadd

            It involves parental witnessing of regressive autism AFTER a series of vaccines. Begin by doing some research.

          • Chris

            post hoc ergo propter hoc

            (ask the Cedillos and Brian Hooker about how that played out in their NVICP lawsuits, it turns out that Hooker’s kid had neurodevelopmental issues very early on, as soon as four months:
            http://ia902504.us.archive.org/31/items/gov.uscourts.cofc.2340/gov.uscourts.cofc.2340.118.0.pdf )

            Real research would involve producing actual PubMed indexed studies by reputable qualified researchers not paid off by former NVIC board members (Dwoskin). But you just rely on idiotic insults. Good for you.

          • AutismDadd

            Thanks for the encouragement and the reminder that NVICP treats vaccine victims like trash and that vaccine proponents get to write and document adverse events in a way that protects Vac makers.

    • Neo

      Absolutely correct!
      You know you are losing ground when you have to resort to lies, fears, deception and force!.

  • DK

    Thanks for making my day The Science Post! Hilarious. And many hours of comments reading ahead. For bonus hilarity 👌🏻

  • Steve Skalkos

    This has to be satire.

    • Jayson

      “The Science Post has been your untrusted source of science and health news for over 0 years. We aim to bring you the latest in made-up, hard hitting news that you can use to mock others. ”

      Uhuh.

      • Steve Skalkos

        The problem is, I can totally believe this. We live in a post-fact world where people don’t know the difference between climate and weather, opinions have as much weight as proven theories, cats living with dogs. I had this dream that an orange man with baby hands won the presidential election. I can’t tell what is real anymore.

        • Chris

          That is one reason why Jayson told you what is written at the bottom of this page. Also at the top of the page under the main title, “The Science Post, are the words “Science, Health, Satire.”

          In this “Post Truth” era where fake news is a money making bonanza for idiots who do not care if anyone gets hurt, it is now very important to actually figure out the purpose of a website. Is it pushing an agenda? Is it satire? Or is it idiotic click bait? This other article of this site might clear things up:
          http://thesciencepost.com/study-70-of-facebook-commenters-only-read-the-headline/

  • Brianna LaPoint

    I blame child deaths on Christians.

    • Maria Κ

      Exactly! If a parent neglect the medical care of his/her child ,he/she should be accused of child neglection. That’s the law and religion doesn’t justify that. Dura lex,sed lex.

  • Maria Κ

    Every parent who neglects the medical care of his/
    her child should be accused of neglection and tho is a crime. Now, you may believe in God, good for you but it’s irrelevant.