Anti-vaccine parents tear up with sadness when talking about son who got into medical school

Anti-vaccine parents tear up with sadness when talking about son who got into medical school

Bruce and Jenny Turnbull are devastated after hearing the news that their son, Matthew, secretly applied and was accepted to Harvard Medical School. Matthew last had a major fight with his anti-vaccine parents when he went behind their back and got all his recommended vaccinations when he was 18.

“This is just so sad and so disappointing” said Jenny Turnbull. “You try to do everything right as a mother: no vaccines, no doctor visits, only raw milk and food, home school, everything. When your son goes behind your back and does something this terrible, it really hurts.”

Matthew managed to get accepted to university for his undergraduate degree in neuroscience. He told his parents he was taking a double major in religious studies and alternative medicine.

“I’m surprised they believed me to be honest, but I got away with it for 4 years” explained Matthew. “I also managed to save up a lot of money throughout my undergrad degree and I got a scholarship for medical school, so I am paying my own way.”

With the news that Matthew no longer needs them for pretty much anything, the Turnbull’s are obviously very distraught.

“It’s going to be really hard to be proud of a son who sold out and will be using modern medicine to save people’s lives instead of selling miracle cures online like a true maverick.”

 

  • Ekaterina Kaverina

    not funny

    • Mike Tan

      What is not funny? I agree it’s not funny how stupid the parents are.

  • Julie Powell

    Please tell me this is a joke article?

    • Cristina

      I think this whole website is meant to be a bit tongue in cheek!

    • BossTweed599

      Welcome to TheSpudd. If you’re looking for “totally legit” articles about other things, I’d recommend TheOnion.
      TheSpudd is mostly about health and wellness, hence the name.

    • Chris

      Don’t fret, some people think the following link is a real church (hint: it’s very unsubtle satire):
      http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

      The point is to be careful about what you read on ‘teh internets.” It is all unedited, and not checked. It is just much easier to disseminate total nonsense through the “web.”

      Back in the “old days” I wrote actual snail mail letters to the editor of our local newspaper, where my full name and city of residence was listed. Some decided to “educate” me. I came home one day and found in my mailbox several copied off pages on “technocracy” (it included plans to make a canal system across the Rocky Mountains and Cascades, a bit out dated). Another day (this over a period of ten years) someone placed copied pages about a special diet in my mailbox. I also used to get real chain mail letters with postage sent to me (usually starting with “we have the same last name so we should be related… my last name is just slightly less common than “Jones”). I have seen the same things sent around on the Internet or email spam. Same stuff, different media. I ignored all of them.

      By the way, have you heard about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide?

  • GeeGee

    Eagerly awaiting the butt-hurt anti-vax parents who will probably believe this article is real…just like everything else they read on the Internet.

  • GaMomof5

    Congratulations to Matthew!

  • Ciarrai Faerie

    sat·ire

    ˈsaˌtī(ə)r/

    noun

    the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices

  • Del

    This would be hilarious if it weren’t real. I applaud the young man for setting off on his own. I hope he is able to bring some real help to people. Jenner, and other scientists would be proud of him.

    • 3lbisivni

      It’s not real. Look at the top of the page where it says “Science, health, satire.”

  • Wow. Satire that ridicules people who question the mainstream
    medical/pharmaceutical paradigm, and diligently reinforces vaccine
    doctrine. How dangerous and revolutionary. Lol.

    • FireDragons42

      Who says satire needs to be dangerous and revolutionary. Sometimes it is just needed to make fun of things that are dangerous and utterly stupid, such as anti-vaccers.

      • Blind belief is dangerous. Manufactured consensus masquerading as science is dangerous. The entire vaccine paradigm is a house of cards, and its foundations are shaking. Thus, the need (by some) for satire to prop it up. It’s satire to serve the masters. 😀

        • FireDragons42

          Except vaccines have continued to show their efficacy, from the early beginnings of purposely infecting people with cowpox to protect them from small pox, up to modern vaccines against things like meningitis and the flu.

          You don’t need to manufacture that consensus, because it comports with reality.

          • That is factually incorrect. The data does not support your claims.

          • FireDragons42

            So I guess that small pox was never eradicated then hmm?

          • It was never eradicated with a vaccine, correct.

          • FireDragons42

            HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh sorry, you’re just a complete and total brain dead idiot.

          • kellson

            Wow! I haven’t seen a useless ad hominum attack since this morning when our 4-year-old called her younger brother a doody-poop during a disagreement. She had a time out. Hint.

          • FireDragons42

            You still haven’t seen an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem would be if I said you are an idiot and therefore your position is fallacious.

            If you follow the thread back you will see that I spoke to NWO about the efficacy of vaccines and in particular about the small pox vaccine which despite all the documented evidence that the small pox vaccine is responsible for the eradication of the disease, NWO asserted it was not without any evidence to back up that claim.

            My calling him an idiot was merely a statement of fact based on their conduct here, and has no impact on the truth value of their claims which are evaluated on their own merits and found to be lacking.

          • Varuka Salt

            Correct. Calling a spade a spade is not an ad hominem. It’s an accurate description based on factual evidence.

          • Inservio Letum

            Very curious to hear what you think did, then. Stop when you get to aliens.

          • Charley

            Actually, the data definitely does support his claims.

          • Varuka Salt

            You literally never tell the truth. Well, at least in this thread you haven’t. Who pays you to spread such lies and disinformation?

          • LOL. Yeah, right. A single vaccine is worth tens of billions to the patent owner and manufacturer. But we all know they would never pay disinformation agents like you to flood stories like this with pro-vax propaganda. 😀

          • FireDragons42

            Vaccines aren’t really worth all that much to pharmaceutical companies. If they wanted to make the big bucks they would not make vaccines at all because they make far more money from treatment of disease than they get from prevention.

          • Actually, there is far more money to be made from the iatrogenic illnesses that result from vaccination–chronic allergies and other autoimmune disorders, seizure disorders, neurological damage, etc. Just the emergency room visits that follow vaccination add up to quite a bit–and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

          • FireDragons42

            Do you have any evidence to back up that claim or it just another vacuous attempt to maintain your footing on unstable ground? There are not chronic issues arising from vaccines, and patients are asked about their allergies before receiving vaccinations so they are not given something they will react with.

          • No wonder you are on here defending vaccines–either you are deliberately trying to deceive; or you haven’t done the slightest bit of investigation into the concerns about them. Sorry, I don’t have the time or inclination to start at square one with you…particularly considering it’s unlikely you’re actually interested. But good luck with your vaccines. 🙂

          • Varuka Salt

            Well shit then where’s my check? I’ve been doing this for years for free!

          • Why is it a bad thing that a lifesaving invention is worth money?

          • It’s not…nor are vaccines a lifesaving invention. The bad thing is not the money–it’s that people are prepared to deceive and destroy others, even children, to make that money, from a product that no one would consume if they had complete and accurate information about it.

        • Lori Koonce

          Have you swallowed enough of the koolaid that you now have lost any reading comprehension skills you may have had in the past?

        • Del

          It’s amazing that the anti-vexers don’t realize they have been brain-washed into following the nuts on the internet in joining into their religion. Many vegetarians, anti-vexers, political fanatics have made a religion out of their beliefs. And in a psychological transference accuse the rational people who have read and understand the overwhelming statistical studies showing the horrific results of the diseases prevented by vaccination, and the small number of people harmed by vaccinations, are accused by the anti-vaxers of having been brain-washed.

          • Robert David Lindsey

            sad

        • Charley

          re: Blind belief is dangerous.
          support of vaccines isn’t blind belief. It’s evidence based belief.

          • It’s *selective* evidence-based belief. “It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely
            on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” Dr. Marcia Angell, NY Review of Books, Jan. 15, 2009.

          • kellson

            Taken in context, she along with the editor of Lancet and other organizations were launching programs to curtail improper research. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”. The Academy of Medical Sciences, Medical Research Council, and Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council have now put their reputational weight behind an investigation into these questionable research practices

          • Charley

            re:It’s *selective* evidence-based belief
            No, it’s just evidence based belief.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            “No, they’re selecting the evidence they want!”

            *recites single sentence with no context*

    • Charley

      aw, someone’s feelings are hurt…

    • Inservio Letum

      You seem to be using the word reporter wrong. Did you realise the word you meant is actually spelled c-r-a-c-k-p-o-t ?

  • kellson

    Typical new intern. Thinks he knows more than the internet.

  • guest1xprq11

    if you get a scholarship you are not paying your own way.

    • tg3

      Medical school, and all higher studies, should be free of charge.

      • That’s ridiculous. “Free” isn’t “free,” it just means “someone else pays.”

        Why should someone else pay for something you’re doing to advance your own life?

        • Fletcher Helms

          I rather enjoy not dying because enough people were able to afford medical school for me to get a doctor.

          • Huh, there seem to be doctors today even without free school.

            Ever hear of “work” “scholarships” and “loans?”

          • Jesse Hines

            If a citizen of your nation goes to college, obtains a degree and then gets a job with that degree, that citizen has not only gone to school to advance themselves, they went to school to advance society. The right to free schooling isn’t about freeloading, it is realizing that every citizen who DOES get college is essentially GIVING BACK that knowledge to society. Don’t try to play college off as self serving, ESPECIALLY since children are told they need college to succeed.

          • Of course going to college helps those around you.

            But let’s not pretend that there’s nothing in it for the person who goes.

            Here’s the problem: with that logic, where do you stop? Should the government pay for anything which we judge as “good for society?” Who judges what’s “good for society?”

            It’s not that we don’t have any doctors. There is already a pathway for those who want to. It’s not something that the government needs to pay for.

          • Jesse Hines

            I’m never said make the government pay for it. Make the price tag for college free and then take reimbursement through taxes. The only way it wouldn’t work is if everyone who had never attended in the past decided to attend(all at once, same semester enrollment). The tax load of one person on free college would be eased by the millions of post-graduates already paying back the system.

            Let us not also not forget that the pathways to college are not available to everyone, scholarships rarely pay 100% and if you put a pay wall on medical school then there are going to be citizens who want to be doctors who cannot afford the price of schooling.|

            Also, not one person said “let’s… pretend that there is nothing in it for the person who goes” Not sure what kind of strawman that is but no one has ever stated college does nothing for those who go.

          • “Make the price tag for college free and then take reimbursement through taxes”

            So….the government paying for it.

          • Jesse Hines

            If the government is the source of taxes and not the citizens, then that would equal the government paying for it. Taxes come from citizens, not the government. Strawman strawman strawman at this point.

          • Ok, so be pedantic about it.

            Do a mental search and replace when I said “government” and replace with “tax dollars.”

            Doesn’t change the substance of my argument in the slightest.

          • Jesse Hines

            Nothing pedantic on my end, you are stating that the government pays for things when this is demonstrably false. Changing the word to “tax dollars” is even more dishonest. You stated “the government” pays these things. Our tax dollars are our tax dollars, are you upset that I want a mere fraction of the taxes that I pay into diverted to free education? We live in a consumer society, free means void of monetary transaction, not some emotion filled word to be flung around when a citizen wants tax dollars to be used for the betterment of society.

          • “are you upset that I want a mere fraction of the taxes that I pay into diverted to free education?”

            Yes, I am, because you’re not the only one who pays taxes.

            If you want to pay for other people’s education, you’re free to do so yourself.

          • Jesse Hines

            So just to be clear, you live in a capitalist society in which only you wish to reap the benefits, if not for you, then no one else. Education is the backbone of a fair society, if you don’t want your taxes to pay for the education of your countrymen and women than that make you deplorable.

          • “So just to be clear, you live in a capitalist society in which only you wish to reap the benefits”

            No, not at all. When I pay my medical bills, where do you think that goes to? Doctors who went to school. I’m paying for the benefits.

          • Jesse Hines

            You honestly think your medical bill is an accurate view of the costs in healthcare? ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SCHOOL THIS LUNATIC?

          • Jesse Hines

            Not going to argue with someone who just stated that paying his medical bill helps doctors who went to school. 180 dollars for a disposable staple cutter, you sir, have lost ALL credibility when you defend the medical establishment of free schooling.

          • Jesse Hines

            Here is a big hint to your lunacy, millions don’t pay their medical bills and all the country’s doctors are still having their 5 star dinner tonight.

          • Jesse Hines

            Why should payment of medical bills be the repayment to the doctors who went to medical school? Why should the sick have to pay extra out of pocket because medical school is too damn expensive? Why should the costs of medical school be taken out on sick individuals? Taxing everyone for a sound medical and education foundation should be a patriotic responsibility. This is a system that only hurts the middle and lower class.

          • Jesse Hines

            For that matter, if medical bills are a reflection on medical school costs, why are public defender attorneys free to the indigent? Poor people can get free law services (and law school is also very expensive), shouldn’t we all not be required to pay taxes into the programs that pay for indigent law services?

          • Jesse Hines

            But then, someone might say, “Well, free legal service is a right”, and then everyone should be outraged that medical service isn’t.

          • Jesse Hines

            You are all for the infrastructure supporting you, but you don’t want to put any effort into the infrastructure. My idea included giving back to the infrastructure, don’t even try to skew my view.

          • Jesse Hines

            I mean seriously, you refuted the idea of free college with “That’s ridiculous. “Free” isn’t “free,” it just means “someone else pays.”

            Why should someone else pay for something you’re doing to advance your own life?”

            and…

            “So….the government paying for it.”

            Instead let’s drain our youth, chain them to student loans for 20 years or more while pretending that tax money ought to only be spend the way the Libertarians demand it be spent. Taxes will continue to exist after people have their “free college”. The future degree holders would also being paying taxes in the future to “pay it forward”.

          • Or, people like you who think that college should be free could start out by putting your money where your mouth is: go find a student and pay on their loans, or donate to / start a scholarship.

          • Kyanna Young

            I would pay off someone’s student loans if it was a negligible part of my income, which it would be if it were included in taxes, but first let me pay my own, not to mention my hospital debt. I would put my money where my mouth is if I had any, but alas, I’m a poor college student that people see as a freeloader. All I want to do is escape the poverty I have been born into, but people think I just want to mooch off of them. I have a job, but its nowhere near enough. I am just trying to better my life, and use my knowledge to help people out of the hole I started in. What is so wrong with that?

          • Fletcher Helms

            I think I’d gladly pay $300 a year now to not die later and leave my family with thousands in medical bills, let alone the actual proposed price (much lower because of scaling based on income). If you disagree, that’s fine, but don’t expect to get away from paying a fortune o fix something which probably wasn’t your fault. If you only fund the people who’ve already made it, you push away people who could otherwise be saving your life.

          • Jesse Hines

            Money exists in the government for the sake of being used, that money comes from the citizen. A small fraction of our defense budget could make college free for all citizens. Diverting mere fractions of a cent from every tax dollar of each and every citizen for free college is negligible.

          • If money can be cut from other programs, why not GIVE IT BACK to the people they took it from in the first place?

            My earlier comment would still apply. Free college for docs sounds nice, but where do you stop? Why not fund every “good thing” with tax dollars?

          • Jesse Hines

            And “why not fund every good thing with tax dollars?” Education is a foundation, as is healthcare and our highway system. If you start treating education as a luxury item only the wealthy will be able to freely participate in them.

          • Del

            When our colleges were flooded with students on the GI bill, and those who were disabled in any way got a completely free ride; many of these guys were complete goof-offs, skipped class to go to the local bars (this was in a Christian college). One of them was playing around and fired a gun into the ceiling of my brother’s room. Nonetheless, the GI bill did help a lot of economically disadvantaged students to get a good education and go on to be very useful productive members of society; some becoming leaders.

          • Del

            Everyone in a perfect world should have health, food and shelter. But, if we provided medicare for all, foodicare for all, and shelticare for all, we’d need some hard-working stiffs to have taxes wrung out of them to support all of this.

          • Jesse Hines

            “”Make the price tag for college free and then take reimbursement through taxes”

            So….the government paying for it.”

            So by your logic, ANY other program that take money from taxes to function is paid for by the government, even thought that money comes from it’s citizens.

          • Yes, that’s exactly how it works. If a program is taking tax dollars, it’s being at least partially funded by the government.

            Not sure how this is a revelation to you.

          • Mika

            No, stupid. We ALL pay. 330 MILLION of us paying $1-2 dollars a year for that. OOOOOO, SOOOOO EXPENSIVE.
            Free education for all for the PRICE OF A STARBUCKS.
            Oh wait, your homeschool math probably didn’t cover that.

          • “Let us not also not forget that the pathways to college are not available to everyone, scholarships rarely pay 100% and if you put a pay wall on medical school then there are going to be citizens who want to be doctors who cannot afford the price of schooling.”

            Guess what: there will always be people who can’t afford something. That doesn’t mean it needs to be publically funded.

          • zulie255

            omg people! none of this inane chatter is pertinent to the article! rip on mom and dad for idiocy, not the kid who rebelled in a positive fashion

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            Well, it’s just satire, anyway. The guy isn’t real.

          • Chris

            Though it is kind of fun to see how many take this bit of frivolous satire so seriously.

            Rats! I ran out of popcorn!

          • Mika

            Tell that to EVERY 1st world country IN THE WORLD EXCEPT THE USA.
            I’m waiting! If they can do it, the only thing stopping us is GREED and STUPID PEOPLE.

          • You’re free to discuss the tax policy of other countries if you’d like. I’m talking about the US here, and I assume everyone else is too.

          • At least I stay on topic

            Very poor assumption I’m afraid, reading about American stupidity is a worldwide source of entertainment.

          • Del

            Something needs to be done about the high cost of education, either in reducing the cost, or helping the student to pay for it. It is very common for someone studying medicine to go $200,000.00 into debt by the time he/she is ready to go out into practice. My cousin’s son went $390,000.00 into debt to complete his medical degree in a for profit D.O. medical school south of Denver, Colorado (new just a few years ago). The school is owned and run by a Chinese billionaire. I gave my cousin’s son a small non-interest loan for 6 years to help him out when he had totally run out of money.

          • Terryl Terrell

            Governments shouldn’t be paying for churches. By your logic, churches should be paying their own ways including taxes. If a church gets robbed or catches on fire, the first responders go and put out the flames. Since churches don’t pay taxes (even though they want to dictate politics) then people who aren’t benefitting from the church are paying taxes to keep churches safe.

            See how that works!

          • Jesse Hines

            I can make it even simpler, no one who get’s free college is a freeloader when we expect that educated citizen to pay taxes off all incomes in the future. So what if they college is free, they will pay it back more than sufficiently if given the chance to succeed.

          • Mika

            Ever hear of doctors not giving free care or care based on what you can pay BECAUSE THEY HAVE STUDENT LOANS AND MALPRACTICE INSURANCE TO PAY???? Dufus.

        • Thomas Greene

          Often others pay when they realize helping you, could help them. Like the small towns who’ll pay a scholarship with the obligation to be the town doctor for a few years. Or people charitable and wise enough to realize that funding a med student won’t just help the student but all the lives that future doctor will save over their lifetime. Of course, anyone who spitefully resents even the possibility that someone else may benefit from their dime probably won’t get that.

        • whomedoyou

          Well someone else should pay because you could be doing something to help advance society at the same time as advancing your life.

          Doctors perhaps in some fields should have it free – but all higher studies is debatable. For example I shouldn’t be paying taxes for someone pursuing an MBA in finance.

        • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

          Why should someone else pay? There are a couple ways to answer that. One way is to say that it’s essentially a “pay it forward” plan where previous graduates’ increased productivity and earnings pay for the next generations to increase their productivity and earnings. Another way is to say that public funding removes the economic and creative drag of student debt, interest, and overhead. Another way is to say that public funding would promote economic growth by making higher education available based on merit instead of class.

        • Charley

          Because you reap the benefits of a well educated society

    • Mika

      Semantics. Medical scholarships are only given to the best of the best. There’s a TON of competition. You win a scholarship to med school, you are the BEST. At least he’s not going to have $1MILLION in student debt when he gets out!

      • Charlotte Pond

        The point is: His parents AREN’T paying his way!

    • stephen514

      Troll alert!!

  • Del

    Between 1990 and 2010, measles deaths declined by 71%.
    Between 1988 and 2001, reported cases of polio have dropped by 99%; down from 350,000 cases to 483. Vaccination has saved millions of lives and prevented even more from disability. Between 1990 and 2010 the percentage of children who died before their fifth birthday dropped by almost half. I worked in a hospital in the fifties when an entire wing was filled with polio patients. One of the local high schoolers was to be crowned queen on Saturday night. She came into our hospital with bulbar polio Friday afternoon and was dead by noon Saturday. Homecoming was cancelled at her small high school. A very few bad reactions to vaccines, including some rare deaths has to be balanced against this. Of course, there are a few patients who have conditions contraindicating their vaccination.

    • Kevin R. Cross

      I’m not old enough to remember the actual epidemic…but I remember schoolmates with leg braces, a cousin in an iron lung, the sheer relief on my parents’ faces when i was vaccinated. I remember the fear.
      Let’s shove these anti-vax terrorists into the middle of an Ebola outbreak without the new vaccine, into back-country Pakistan where there’s still Polio. Let them feel the fear.

      • Del

        Amen! No one in those days dared to go swimming in the municipal swimming pools. There was fear everywhere. I remember when the power went out in the hospital, I was in the cafeteria. People overturned tables in their rush to get to the north wing where all the polio kids were. We all ran to change their electrically powered iron lungs to hand powered. I got one of the older machines, and had to unbolt the pivoting steel arm, then swing it up and bolt it to a fulcrum, so I could grab the handle and pump the teen’ chest with the bellows. Shortly he was banging a fist against the iron lung from the inside, and got the message to me that with my adrenalin pumping in my system, I was pumping way too fast for him to breathe well.
        Later on they put a huge gasoline engine into a building on the hospital grounds; and it would come on when the city power went off. It would generate enough power to keep the lights on and wall plugs live in the operating rooms, and keep the power on to the polio floors to pump the iron lungs. I would have liked to chain an anti-vaxxer to one of the iron lungs 24/7.

  • larryg

    He’s lucky to be alive if they fed him this crap. Good thing somewhere he learned to think for himself. Way to go kid.

  • Gen

    The really unbelievable part is that he was able to save up money while in undergrad.